Using Burns and Roe

[raelene_beecher]

Have just run off a copy of Burns and Roe. Need to have some milestones for my school in Australia. Without them my school will not be convinced to use this invaluable tool. My question- Could you please give me an age benchmark for each Level . Eg. Primer - usually 5-year olds, Level 4-
I understand students excell at different rates but I just need a benchmark to do some convincing. PLEASE!!!

[srea]

I found this online. I compares lots of assessment tools, including the Burns and Roe. This is from WordPress.com.

[srea]

I also ran across this information document from the University of Michigan. If you're working to convince others of its importance, you might find information in this document.

http://www.ciera.org/library/presos/2002/2002csi/2002csicarpenter/02csircp.pdf

[raelene_beecher]

You are fantastic thank you. Also need to know what are your age range reference as the table talks of basal age. This is Australia, I need to know what age roughly is Primer, Grade 1 etc. Is this possible?

[raelene_beecher]

Sorry me AGAIN!! Another few questions:

1. On the scoring Aid on the Burns and Roe- I understand the word recognition count and the word amount for the rate. But not sure what the WPM total is for? I am assuming that WPM is words per minute but the figure under the division type sign is way too large to be the word count eg on P form their are only 84 words but under the division type sign it has a figure of 5040...can you explain this.

2. I was able to download most of the test of the net. But it didn't give me the full copy of the word list- Missing 9 to level 12?

Where can I buy a full copy of the test? I will check with ACER- in Australia.

Thank you once again

[srea]

Hello, Australia!

The ages I listed below are the "expected" levels--as we all know, kids move at all different rates, and after we assess, we start teaching where they begin instruction. Does that make sense? Again, just usual ages.

Kindergarten is ages 5-6
Pre-Primer can start in late Kinder and the first half of first grade (6-early 7)
Primer and 1st are usually for 6-7 years old
2nd grade, 7-8
3rd grade, 8-9
4th grade, 9-10
5th grade 10-11

[srea]

I'm sorry, I don't have access the assessment here at home (it's our summer ), so I can't really look it up. You are right, however--WPM is words per minute, and 5040 certainly can't be true!! Perhaps other friends out there can help with that problem!

I know you can order it from Amazon. There also seem to be a lot of used copies that are a lot cheaper than a new one, if that interests you. Here's a link to that page: https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0495808946/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=all

I'm sure most teacher book stores have it, or can get it. Good luck in your search!

PS Keep the questions coming--love to "talk" with you!!

[raelene_beecher]

Thank you once again. I know that kids move at different rates. But I just need some milestones to attach to the document to convince our school. Your guidance has been brilliant. I will let you know of our progress. Don't worry I WILL BE sending more questions!!! Sorry you have to answer them in your big break!! This site is ONE of the best I have ever used in my 25 years of teaching!!! Thank you for providing such a platform to learn 'quickly'!!!

[srea]

Thank you for your kind words!! I love being on here and talking through questions and ideas!

I appreciate this site as a teacher, too. I come to it often to reread an article or view a video. That's a great compliment you gave. If you don't mind, I'll share it with the Sisters--they work hard to make the site the best it can be.

[raelene_beecher]

Me again! Just need someone to walk me through the scoring again around the 'division' part of the assessment.

[raelene_beecher]

I just want someone to walk me through to ensure I have it all correct. Is it possible to do a phone link up? Skype? I am willing to pay.

[srea]

Hopefully, there is someone else at your campus that is using this by now, too, and you feed off of each other. I'm not a skyper, but perhaps someone here will be able to help you. Best of luck.

[raelene_beecher]

I just want someone to talk to about the scoring in each section I still haven't; got the part that has the division section clear. All other areas very clear. Is it possible to call yourself or one of the sisters?

[srea]

Oh, I wish I felt qualified to respond to your request!! Is there someone out there who is well enough versed on the Burns and Roe that can help our friend?